My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Henry? Im a New Yorker. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. Sooner or later they are going to destroy you. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. thats the one ive just stopped considering. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . Your Price: $744.13. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. An American voting for a Democrat After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. Easy there tough guy. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. Out of stock. Hes hurt the small guys trying to kiss up to the big retailers here in Illinois. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Search Ruger anti gun. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. Springfield is DEAD to me. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. Who Makes Rock River Arms? I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. Most places, its still over $1500. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. With support like that, who needs Everytown? Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. Well, not basically, they did. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. Springfield Armorys Defend your legacy has a huge hypocritical meaning now. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. Customer service beyond any reproach. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! Its transfers. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. Thats bad math and bad leadership. They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. The licensing fee? If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? How many Illinois politicians wind up going to jail? The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? Same here. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] Sorry for the spelling error. This story is libel. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. The firearms community will be better without them. Bullshit. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Asit should. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. Rock River Arms had one seat. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. 3) Lobbyist got paid by someone else to convince his clients this was a slick deal. No Springfield guns for me. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. Or cameras? The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. Thats how capitalism works. There should be a hall of shame for betrayals (and later repentances) by gun companies. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Great grip and trigger. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Reese is a business guy, not a gun guy, as this video demonstrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkfjwStDUUQ, At 1:02 hes pointing the XD at the host (which Leathem mentions, ?). This wasnt the first time gun dealer licensing has come up in Illinois. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. Great gun. Whats the hangup for SA? If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. January 2023. Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. However, the R-51 is a bear to clean and still hasnt proven itself totally for CC, coming off its well documented ill fated Gen 1 launch and Remingtons continued reliability issues. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. Low character move. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! Typical narrow minded hypocrites. Theres no way to know for sure. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. I checked my order history. Performance Tuned. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? This is how capitalism works. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Layoffs to follow. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. They must be put out of business for their treachery. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. Compare. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. Absolutely love them. This rifle is fed by a 10-round AICS-pattern detachable box magazine. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. PERIOD. No more. His quote was basically the above damned if I do damned if I dont and that it wasnt worth the headache. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Hugely disappointing. ! mantra. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Theyre both stuck now. Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Well do our part in other states to support you. Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. The Henry ri fle was made by the New Haven Ar ms Company. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. Not now. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. No they dont. I hear you on that Ruger. Going the other direction nobody would move. thats what matter and they put that last. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Its a freakin disaster. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Yes I am planning on moving. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. I bought my first Rock I have a BM-59 kit that still needs to be built. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. How is he still employed? Ive never had better customer service with any other business. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. Cant beat that! Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. But it will be history at my house. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. No offense intended. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Screw that. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. Now I wish I had not. Glad to see TTAG not shy away from it. Its sad but it happens. Its about the same price as an M1A. Make this a massive intractable mess. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. it Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. F them. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. Cancelled orders? Its called doing business. I just wish there was a good M14 clone I could get. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Rock River Arms offers its version with a twist near and dear to my heart: the new LAR-15 pistol is available in both right- and left-hand configurations. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. My time stinks apparently. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. You write as though weve been asleep. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. Not a nice odor. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. Since 2002. We feel that IFMAs Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. An EMP 4 WAS the next scheduled buy.. not anymore, never again. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. Glad I waited. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Those bastards. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. In the world of .308 Win. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? Simply offering ideas and encouragement. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). That was just a small part of the problem. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Huh? Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. Damage done. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Magpul moved. So I have to ask. Shocking I know. If discounted to $0, maybe. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. Last Updated. Taurus? My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? Sadly I have two. AR Parts. RRA should be punished too. If I was a competitor, Id print up ten thousand flyers announcing Springfields decision and carpet the show with them. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. Rock solid performer. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Major mistake, Springfield. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. They ignored it. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. We need the pistols to get to our rifles anyway. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. business or not your customers are your lively hood. Make the bill political kryptonite. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Pennsylvania checking in. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. You have entered an incorrect email address! I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. 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