It's surprising how much a musical selection can affect mourning. "The police officer pointed a gun at me and I said, 'what's going on?' You have chosen this person to be their own family member. Whatever he knew,he took it with him.You get picked up hitchhiking and a day later your living in the guest house,starring at the hollywood sign.Must have really kept that pool clean.He saw the lifestyle of our hollywood elites.He knew not to talk too much. !Completely grossed out we finally bartered Justin's sad sack ass for 6 smokes! Lancaster is famous for General William Tecumseh Sherman. This could have had an impact on his duties at Cielo, especially if he had to do any time, and especially if Rudi Altobelli was still out of the country. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder, CHARLES MANSON: Helter Skelter; The Entire Life Story, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Member of the Family: My Story of Charles Manson, Life Inside His Cult, and the Darkness That Ended the Sixties, The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten: Life Beyond the Cult, Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson, The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Manson in His Own Words: The Shocking Confessions of The Most Dangerous Man Alive by Charles Manson. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant? Leave your condolences to the family on this memorial page or send flowers to show you care. The Manson relative connections are very interesting and, hopefully you can reveal a bit more about these relationships to us. In Glenna's wedding announcement, not with Bill, didn't see what happened there but they weren't married, Glenna is also called a popular girl in town. Lancaster resident Tom Householder, who graduated with Garretson in 1967 from Lancaster High School, remembers the story being big news for the city. William Garretson was the caretaker for the 10050 Cielo Drive House that Sharon and Roman were renting. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Grief researchers say holding that missing funeral service, even a year or more later, can still help us heal. She was a retired drug store cashier. A system error has occurred. And check out Billy's answer to the last question. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Learn more about merges. Sharon Tate, eight-and-a-half months pregnant, had been stabbed repeatedly and was curled in a fetal position as if to protect her unborn son. Well no, lol. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. William T. Liester, 78, of Battle Lake, MN died on Sunday, January 8, 2023, at Grand Arbor in Alexandria, MN. Legacy. At the end of every month? A real tough guy. There has been nothing to suggest that Garretson's homosexual experiences extended any further than this. Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. I didn't know other drugstores existed for the first twelve years of my life. Pref - awesome username and thank you for the compliment. Born June 6, 1934 in Odd, WV. ?Torque said:At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objectionMost objections are instant. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. It was almost de rigueur if ya wanted to be cool to have at least one cross-country hitch-hiking exploit to boast about. Are you sure that you want to remove this flower? "Welllll, when I was in a band that was touring through (mainly) Germanyduring the mid/late 90s we had pulled into a smaller town/village where we were going to play at an arts community co-operative type place. Younger dudes allowing older dudes, especially older dudes with money, blow them is incredibly common. William A. Garretson, Jr., was born on June 29, 1927, in Long Beach, California, to Wm. I'm pretty sure I'll never forget your story. starviego said:Interestingly, this is consistent with others who heard yelling/gunshots after 1amSo who, after 1am, heard dogs barking other than Emmett Steele {and don't forget, they were his own dogs !} based on information from your browser. "They played a lot of head games and did the whole good cop, bad cop thing and did a polygraph," Garretson said. Here's the proof.". I'm calling bs on that one. I'm probably just trying to say that Billy was most likely more ingratiated that many people believe. If you can believe it, six people lived in my town when I was born. Both his aunt Glenna and her husband Bill got a college education during the Depression. Failed to remove flower. Or maybe create it if you do not. It was Aug. 11, 1969, when Lancaster resident William Garretson's name first appeared in national and local newspaper headlines. But there are lots of people hanging around with the answers. If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. Additionally, one of my distance cousins alive right now is married to one of Charlie's distant cousins. Tate, who was 26 and eight months pregnant, had been stabbed multiple times. I thought I'd try to add some paint to the outline already laid down herein and elsewhere. Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. starviego said:Torque said"At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection" Now my conspiracy radar has been set off. You hit the nail on the head. The gardener at the house on Cielo Drive, in Benedict Canyon, where The Manson "family" murdered Sharon Tate, her unborn child, Abigail Folger (heir to the coffee fortune), Wojciech Frykowski, and Jay Sebring. I know the story as it's told has Billy thumbing a ride to California sometime in 1968, but we are unable to produce an Ohio address for him between late spring of 1967 and early 1970. Torque - it's just crazy to imagine. Learn about how to make the most of a memorial. Grim - I think you have an eidetic memory, yes? HS. Send Flowers. According to our Database, He has no children. Make sure that the file is a photo. It's not worth a lot today but nothing on the river is really. He never should've gone out there. I never heard of a single religious grandmother who'd be down with all that, especially not a Protestant. Hearing that, lead defense attorney Paul (PJ) Fitzgerald shoots out of his chair like an ignited NASA rocket, calls time, and screams, "Heyo, most honorable dude, hold up a quick sec. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. I didn't have a car and as far as I remember the only buses were long distance Greyhounds. . Doug,I wish I could help with the Patty dialogue but don't recall ever seeing it. Even more heartbreaking was the fact that Sharon was eight-and-a-half months pregnant with her first child at the time she was killed. The proof is shown but the bench is still all, "Haha no way fuck you, Fitzgerald. To add a flower, click the Leave a Flower button. Her employer, Gray Drug, was founded in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1912. More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. OBITUARY William Arnold Garretson 25 October, 1942 - 12 April, 2019. William F. Garretson, age 68, of Springfield Twp. Ways to honor WILLIAM GARRETSON's life and legacy. He also had been passing lie detector tests. It's possible one of Billy's wives was a cousin, no clue how distant yet, of Charles Manson. Then counter every possible defence angle, whether it be drugs, mental illness, coercion, alibi etc. An email has been sent to the person who requested the photo informing them that you have fulfilled their request, There is an open photo request for this memorial. Maybe two counting when the police let him go. Tecumseh was tough but had an insane brother. Billy, how'd you meet that mobster? Echovita offers a solidarity program that gives back the funds generated to families. He went through some shit he could never tell anyone about out there in sunny California. Definitely ask the others because this brain is mush. Everyone had teeth when they were young. The sponsor of a memorial may add an additional. He was preceded in death by six brothers, Jim, George, Bob, Dave, Roy, and John Garretson, and three sisters, Anna Belle Burkhart, Sophie Dayton, and Nancy Garretson. Linda Lou Derr died at the end of July 2020. The night of the murders, Garretson said he was in a guesthouse located on the Tate-Polanski property. Surely he felt like he escaped with his life. At one point, he said he saw people run past the guesthouse and heard someone rattle the doorknob before they were scared away by a barking dog. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant?How Garretson got the job is irrelevant and therefore a distraction and it was important, especially so early in the trial {I think he was the third witness}, not to entertain things that could get any juror's mind wandering.Later in the trial, when Rudi Altobelli is on the stand, both Bugliosi and Ronald Hughes question him a bit on the hiring of Bill Garretson. Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail?IF Garretson was an informant, it might explain where he was in those seven days, as well as how he avoided the draft and how he escaped the dope charge in LA. The family resided there for several years, moving back to Smith County, Kansas, in 1933, to a farm in Pleasant Township. That's not new news. !Two seriously insane (and, frighteningly, stereotypical - in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE ) toothless Gypsy women had been/were taking turns on him as if Justin was a young Bill Garretson!! GARRETSON, 58 PLANT CITY - William Thane Garretson, 58, entered into eternal rest on September 25, 2019. Rest in peace, Billy. All rights reserved. Was Billy possibly a naive rumpkin who thought he could go to Hollywood and become the next Steve McQueen? You are only allowed to leave one flower per day for any given memorial. Billy died in 2016. Sound travels in strange and unexpected ways in those settings and what people in the area (Wm G. included) reported is entirely in line with reality. All rights reserved. Sorry, $300-$500 range in today's money Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. Revenge. Hit Matt up. Ireland was in a place to clearly hear the voice at a very significant distance. After the murders, William led a fairly quiet life. We were traveling with another band that supported us for the entire tour. Bill Nelson in a Bruce Davis mask? You can almost feel the darkness swirling around the edges. Share this memorial using social media sites or email. In another amazing blunder by police, the two bloody murders were originally deemed to be unrelated and were investigated by separate homicide teams. "They never really was taught or loved, so no, I do not want to hate. Linda and Billy were on the same high school yearbook page together. There's also a chance she's passed. "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! Leave your condolences to the family on this memorial page or send flowers to show you care. Just ask one. Maybe some of the Gen Z'ers too. Perhaps in the spring I can find a way to bring Pearce into all of this.they'll umm surely love it. ". William Garretson Cielo Drive Caretaker (1949-2016). Billy says in his. I do but didn't until I looked into his story. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Or actresses and heiresses. Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. You can always change this later in your Account settings. Christy Snider-Bitler, another classmate, was also shocked to see Garretson on the headlines of newspapers and TVs across the country in 1969. They're not a map to follow, but simply a description of what people commonly feel. Next sentence, "Even as a child I knew they were not smart." And Garretson does most of the talking. The importance of the dogs barking is that they may signal or herald the arrival on the scene of the persons who perpetrated the events. And didn't he have any fear of the bad things that happen in the skin trade? Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. 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